Re: [www.keralites.net]sangeetha bhasker details and panikkar saarinte grammar class

 

അയ്യോ അയ്യയ്യോ പാവം നമ്മുടെ രജി കോതമംഗലം അയാള്‍ ഇപ്പോള്‍ താന്‍ മെയില്‍ അയച്ച സമയം ചെക്ക്‌ ചെയ്യാനായി കണിയാനെ തേടി പോയി കാണും എന്തിനാ സായിപ്പിന്റെ ഭാഷയെ വച്ച് ആ പാവത്തിനെ കൊല്ലാക്കൊല ചെയ്യുന്നത് ,നിങ്ങള്‍ക്കാര്‍ക്കെങ്കിലും ആ പെണ്‍കുട്ടിയെ പറ്റി എന്തെങ്കിലും വിവരങ്ങള്‍ അറിയാമെങ്കില്‍ അത് മാത്രം നല്‍കി ആ പാവത്തിനെ സഹായിക്കൂ .....പിന്നെ ആംഗലേയ ഭാഷയെക്കുറിച്ച് തന്ന അറിവുകള്‍ക്ക് എല്ലാവര്ക്കും നന്ദി പക്ഷെ അത് പ്രയോഗിക്കാനുള്ള സന്ദര്‍ഭം ഇതല്ല എന്ന് മാത്രമേ ഞാന്‍ ഉദ്ദേശിച്ചുട്ടുള്ളൂ..
(ഇത് ഇംഗ്ലീഷില്‍ എഴുതാനുള്ള ധൈര്യം ഇല്ലാത്തതുകൊണ്ടാണ് മലയാളത്തില്‍ എഴുതിയത്...)
എന്ന്
തനുഷ്ക


On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:18 PM, rency raghavan <rencykr@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dear Panikkar, a few mistakes in your mail are worth mentioning for yours as well as others' understanding. (highlighted in red)
Thanks. Earlier also I was criticised by some body and also was supported by many others when I have sent a similar mail earlier. (use of 'earlier' twice is awkward. 'have' is not required or 'had' is acceptable)
But I find that the standard of English in Kerala schools and colleges has gone down pathetically. (if you mean 'Kerala' is a name of institution, its fine. otherwise, 'schools and colleges in Kerala' should be used)
 
Most of our present day writers in English are educated out side Kerala. (use 'were')
 
But it is not the education that you get in school or colleges only matters.( use 'from' instead of 'in'. replace 'only' with 'that'. still poorly phrased sentence)
 
VPMenon who became governor of Orissa and author of the beautiful book "Integration of Indian states" hardly had any good schooling. ( use 'the governor'. 'beautiful book'????? what you mean?.. ok. but replace 'had' with 'got')
 
Same is about Basheer or K.T.Muhammad (use 'and'. still doesnt look nice)
 
Even the short story writer Gauthaman(Menon) is not a graduate I think ( mention of caste is welcomed, but you cannot think a person as graduate or otherwise. better use 'to my knowledge' or 'as per my knowledge')
 
So what all we try to learn ourselves is also matters a lot in life than what we learn in our schools or colleges. ( 'all' 'is also' may be omitted to make it correct)
 
Due to the number of mails in this group I do not read most of the mails also. ( I guess you read mails from your inbox. in that case you can use 'mails form this group'. and what number do you mean??? 'large number of mails'?? 'also' at the end doesnt make any meaning.)
Only Malayalam weekly I read is Bhashaposhini now a days.. ( start with 'the only....' . 'now a days' may be placed before 'bhasaposhini')
 
Generally I do not react, to small mistakes are made by my fellow members ( use 'small mistakes that are made')
 
apart from these, all the sentences in your mail are poorly phrased and doesn't look like english at all.
 
Please go for english tution very urgently.
 
Friends, this is just mockery (in the line of idea star singer judges) and I hope Mr. Panikkar would enjoy it.
In I opinion, before mail of REGI KOTHAMANGALAM is perfect fine to all understand his wanting of deails. no problem is grammar but understand is the more important.
forget grammar and lets worry about sangeetha bhaskar

From: gopala panikkarpazhoor <pgpanikkar2003@yahoo.co.in>
To: Keralites <Keralites@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 3 April, 2010 16:01:58
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] need sangeetha bhasker details

Dear Sir,
Thanks. Earlier also I was criticised by some body and also was supported by many others when I have sent a similar mail earlier.
But I find that the standard of English in Kerala schools and colleges has gone down pathetically. Most of our present day writers in English are educated out side Kerala, though not all. (We did have O.V Vijayan , DrAyyappa Paniker etc). DrPaniker was from a village school of Kavalam and Pulinkunoo (Kuttanad) and did his post graduation from Farook college. But Kamala Surayya ,Tharoor etc were educated outside Kerala.The great man Sardar K.MPanikkar after his education in Thalavady school and Kottayam CMSCollege went to Oxford for further education. But it is not the education that you get in school or colleges only matters.
VPMenon who became governor of Orissa and author of the beautiful book "Integration of Indian states" hardly had any good schooling. Same is about Basheer or K.T.Muhammad. Even the short story writer Gauthaman(Menon) is not a graduate I think. He was working in Rourkela steel plant. But he wrote a good number of wonderful short stories for us to read and enjoy. So what all we try to learn ourselves is also matters a lot in life than what we learn in our schools or colleges.
Due to the number of mails in this group I do not read most of the mails also.But I do try to read poems and short stories by some very talented young people like MrSabu(Devi Kerala).I write to him personally some times and I am surprised that he accepts my criticisms also.It is great!!
Only Malayalam weekly I read is Bhashaposhini now a days though I read the net editions of some Malayalam news papers when I get time.
Generally I do not react, to small mistakes are made by my fellow members.I too make mistakes when I am writing in a hurry.Some times some spelling mistakes creep in when we type in a hurry also.
But my point is people should try to learn and should try to correct oneself.
Regards,
PGPanikkar
CC:- Any body has information about Gauthaman now? If so, please write to me. I do not find any of his creations in any periodicals now a days.

--- On Sat, 3/4/10, Shibin Esufjan <shiradh25@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Shibin Esufjan <shiradh25@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [www.keralites. net] need sangeetha bhasker details
To: pgpanikkar2003@ yahoo.co. in
Date: Saturday, 3 April, 2010, 1:47 PM

Dear Mr. Panicker,
I really appreciate your effort to comment on his mail. But as per my experiences, we can not predict how would he react according to your mail. I got several bad experiences by criticizing this kind of poor english. I m not saying that I am perfect in english. Very few percentage of persons will only admit their mistakes.
By your this comment, I learnt a new phrase as follows,

"Any body knows her "or "any body has knowledge about her " .
Thanks & Regards
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 8:12 AM, gopala panikkarpazhoor <pgpanikkar2003@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
Dear Mr Regi,

There were many mistakes in the mail you wrote in English.
1. Use, she acted (past ) instead of she act (present).She acts now as ...
"He eats mango when they eat idly"
2.English should have capital E
3. "After there " is wrong. After wards, after that etc are to be used.But , you may write " after living there" (at Ernakualm) the family shifted to Kannannore etc
4. "Their address "is correct There means avide im Malayalam . "Their "means avarude.
You can also write "the address "also if you feel so.
5." She is an actress" or "she was an actress".
Before a,e ,i,o,u use "an "and not "a"
Example:- An elephant ate a mango"
6. "Any body knows her "or "any body has knowledge about her " may be written.
Please take tuition for English grammar or go through a good grammar book
Regards,
P.G.Panikkar

--- On Thu, 1/4/10, Regi K <regikothamangalam@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Regi K <regikothamangalam@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [www.keralites. net] need sangeetha bhasker details
To: "Keralites" <Keralites@YahooGrou ps.com>
Date: Thursday, 1 April, 2010, 7:58 PM

hai friends,
Can u help me.Before i have a friend in cochin-kalamassery during the year of 1992.Name is Sangeetha Bhaskar.She studied in st.pious english medium school.Her father was textile representative. after there family transfer to kannoor.In kalamassery there address was SANGEETHA BHASKAR,SARSANG COTTAGE,NEAR COCHIN UNIVERSITY,KALAMASS ERY.
She also a actress.In "sargavasantham" film she act as daughter of Narendraprasad. and also she was tele film and seriel actress.
If anybody have know plz give contact details.....
With Love & Regards..... ..
REGI KOTHAMANGALAM
Mobile : 00966-502128237{ KSA}

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